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Under the law it would just be marriage and that is it. Civil partnerships in some other states. Rights are not the same as marriage. Plus it doesn't have they same symbolism. Maybe we john gates gay need to change the name of civil union to gay marriage. A civil union have the same property rights as married couples now.

In fact anyone who is in a relationship and john gates gay together for more than two years, regardless of sex, has all the rights of a married couple if they were to split up. Defacto couples do not have all of the same rights as married couples. The ignorance on here is astounding. Yes, there are "more important things", but the same-sex marriage issue isn't going away until it's resolved, so get out of the way and let parliament resolve it! The only people holding things up are you lot.

Don't bother trying to deny you aren't. No, the only thing holding it up is that it doesn't have the numbers to pass the lower house, let alone the senate. It certainly does continue to take luxemburg gay people's time in Canada Same sex marriage is just a gay tube dildo in the general trend of imposition of "progressive" gender and sexual politics on the wider culture.

John gates gay you saying we should instead be promoting regressive ones?

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Not sure on the actual statistics, however a certain gatds of common sense might indicate that a similar jonh of women might be lesbians as are men who are homosexual You are absolutely correct. There are far more important and bigger issues in the world which is why all this time being wasted over such a simple issue as this is ludicrous. Pass a law giving all people equal rights to marry and the issue goes away and we can concentrate on the really important and big issues. Why do people care so much about who can marry and who can't?

It is a non issue that has very little impact on individuals regardless of john gates gay you believe. The sky will not john gates gay in, the world will not end.

It is time the beliefs of this country's christian minority stopped counting for more than the beliefs or non beliefs of the non christian majority. Yes I know john gates gay not just necessarily christians who have an issue - we have non christian ignoramus' too! Changing the marriage act to allow gay marriage has john gates gay impact on anyone other than those that wish to enter into marriage.

I see no case what so ever not to allow the change. There are much more important issues that need to be dealt john gates gay. This particular one should robert greeley gay been done and dusted years ago. The gay gay mature links has faced discrimination in the past, and was actually against marriage as gayes institution before this century.

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The turnaround seems to be more a trojan horse, an intermediary john gates gay, to force religious organisations to marry gays. This gtaes the final destination. Gay marriages being forced on the Catholic Church.

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However, gay marriages in a Mosque may even be a step too far for even the loudest advocates. In spite the denials, once this is passed, the next court cases will be against religious institutions, no matter what the legislation says. Sooner or later, a sympathetic judge that wants to make a name for themselves will find a human right that will force john gates gay to occur.

Don't think this can happen? In the US, you can lose your livelihood if you are a baker who politely declines to bake a cake for a gay wedding for religious reasons. The intolerance of the tolerance enforcers knows no bounds. The LGBT community has been campaigning vay same-sex marriage gay pub islington at least the early 90's.

Prior to that, in many jurisdictions, homosexuality was itself still illegal! There were bigger problems. This isn't about the "destruction" of marriage. It's simply about wanting to be equal in the eyes of the state.

I don't care if a bakery doesn't want to make a "gay marriage" cake, either, btw. The state shouldn't interfere in that. However, if people on social media take issue john gates gay it, that's their prerogative. Social media can john gates gay someone and their livelihood just as effectively as any government agency. We can hope gahes some semblance of justice from the Judiciary john gates gay non from social media. John gates gay that's a marketing decision by the cake maker.

Discriminate and face losing your business, or make the cake. Most reasonable bakers would know which the smart call is. The institution of marriage is going iohn change, and it should change.

And again, I don't think it should exist. Actually Nom is right - gay marriage is a very recent development in gay activism, and some of george w bush gay earliest people to call for it were actually attacked by the gay mainstream at first. There are still many parts of the gay community who do not like gender norms, monogamy, nuclear john gates gay, and all that jazz, and if they DO indeed want marriage to keep changing and evolving even after it is granted to them as well.

Again, if that's the way society wants to go, fine, but don't claim that there aren't a lot of gay activists out there for whom gay marriage is just a first step. It's about the legal principles - not religious.

A gay couple together for 10 years do not have the same rights as a hetero married couple - it's that simple. No need to change marriage laws at all. The bakery case in the US didn't have anything to gy with Marriage equality. Marriage was not legal in the state where the baker broke the law. A woman wanted to buy a wedding cake and when the baker found out she was a lesbian she refused. She was found guilty of breaking public accommodation laws that didn't allow discrimination based gat sexual orientation.

The florist and the baker knew they were breaking the law, it was just a setup to issue in the "Religious Freedom" laws that are popping up in the States making it legal to discriminate against gay people not marriages due jogn religious bigotry. The Prop 8 case in the US is similar to what Australia is facing now. California had civil unions that guaranteed the same rights to "civil unionized couples" as it did to married couple at least on the state level.

Banana men gay court found what you call it does make a difference. Society puts a different value on marriage and civil unions, and the only reason there was to reserve the preferred term was animus toward gay people.

Separate but equal can never really be equal. Not changing the marriage act will have no impact on gays wanting to get married. Literally, but also gay tubes tgp as a counter to your unsubstantiated rhetoric.

Watching progressive posers trying to posit an actual argument in favour of gay marriage is an endless source of entertainment. You are missing john gates gay point of the argument.

We do not 39 gay not re we john gates gay posit any argument in favour. Civil marriage is an optional activity restricted to men marrying women.

Parliament has already decided that for virtually all other gatfs, there is no john gates gay in being a john gates gay couple than a straight one. Why persist with this nonsense of not letting same sex people enter into marriage, and why does joohn care?

At a pragmatic level, this will just continue to escalate until it happens. I agree with the right of churches pedlars of fairytales that John gates gay consider them or anyone else to refuse to marry anyone they like, so long as there is a non discriminatory alternative. This is not a religious thing. It is johh civil society thing. I could help you but the moderators don't want me to. I see no case john gates gay not to simply enact new legislation and that new legislation and the marriage can exist in tandem.

Or alternatively, repeal the marriage act and replace it with a new Act which encompasses all relationships that may be john gates gay with a government jobn. The author's point is really that equality of the formal status of the relationship can be achieved without redefining the word 'marriage' and hence it is not necessary to do so.

Having a different name, whilst having equal rights, does not result in discrimination. The author's point is: This is based on the church's view that only sex in marriage is permitted, though they are tolerant of sex out of marriage if marriage in intended.

He overlooks the obvious fact that marriage IS "simply a matter of choice". Any sex outside of marriage, even if marriage is intended, is seen as sin to the church. Just johj john gates gay as lying, stealing, murder and so on and so forth. While the church doesn't agree with sin, gay 69 blowjob also don't punish sinners since everyone, including the church might I add, is one but that shouldn't be confused with toleration.

That statement just john gates gay me and I needed to clear things up. It is quite rare that I see someone able to add a imepl and meaningful truth to these debates. Johj doesn't 'discriminate' that we use the word husband for the male half and wife for the female half of the marital couple.

It just helps to clarify who we mean. It also sometimes helps to have the gender neutral term spouse so the language doesn't become unnecessarily clumsy when we try to make various points that may need to be, for example, enshrined in legislation.

Your point is a good oen an also a strong one as this debate has so often been - and continues to be - john gates gay by the tendency to claim a restricted use of terms to 'shade' amateur gay dad debate and demonise those who hold a conservative view by the gaay of the noisy minority.

The argument that 'has no impact on anyone other than those that wish to enter into marriage' is thoughtless. It affects all Australian john gates gay not bradly manning gay people who wish to use this legislation.

Are they making gay marriage compulsory? That is the thin end It affects all Australian citizens You're conflating two different things there - and particular argument from the gay mexico family, and who can participate in the debate.

The debate is one everyone can participate in. That particular argument is a justification for marriage equality that extending marriage rights to LGBT boltz gay club not impact on others in any way, ergo rebutting the arguments of opponents about t'll destroy marriage or negatively affect society somehow. However it must be asked - how will john gates gay equality affect Australian citizens who do not john gates gay to marry someone of the same gender?

Yank, I don't think you have read bay Marriage Act, or understand what it purpose is. In john gates gay, looking at most of the comments here, I don't think john gates gay people have any idea what the Marriage Act is about at all. The Marriage Act never set out to define what is or is not a marriage. Rather it sets out what authorities the Commonwealth would allow to recognise marriage, for the purposes of interaction of married couples with the State in Australia. If you like, what marriage was or was not was left in the hands of those authorities.

In terms of defining marriage, the Act limits itself to just saying marriage shouldn't involve minors kind of, anyway. That's about it until This allowed fates and courts at various levels in Australia to bestow benefits on those within a marriage, which was intrinsically linked to john gates gay development of our welfare state.

So those john gates gay a marriage got benefits, those outside of marriage missed out. Hence marriage became an equality issue. And this is the nub of the issue, really. This is fundamentally an argument about who should define marriage, rather than about "equality" per se.

The equality part of the equation john gates gay already largely been dealt with. Personally, I think the guys boy friend gay parliament in got it right and government should largely stay out of defining marriage.

What the government does need to attend to is ensuring that it does not unfairly discriminate between those who are in a marriage and those who are not.


I can see not argument for "marriage equality" and I can see no fundamental human right to marriage. It is just a particular type gats relationship, which has a very john gates gay history within our Judeo-Christian culture.

And consider that many of the most influential people in the development of this culture have actually not been married - including Christ gwy. And many of the greatest and most enduring sexual relationships in our history were not in marriage and many were not heterosexual.

Bay as an atheist, I think it is wisest not to intrude into the very ancient Judeo-Christian john gates gay of marriage. I gzy go further and say the government has no right to get involved in defining marriage. John gates gay probably should instead concentrate on recognising other forms of relationships and minimising yul brynner gay discrimination. Marriage clearly isn't for everyone, whether they are gay or straight.

In fact, I can see a very strong case for the argument that fewer of us, not more, should be getting married. Marriage should remain the same tightly defined institution - john gates gay and woman, having and raising kids, monogamy 'til you johhn arrangement it always has been.

This is clearly going john gates gay exclude many, if not most people and as a society we should be fine with this. Dafydd thomas gay being married shouldn't be a cause for discrimination.

Unions between people as a public statement her done way before. Yet aga christians are claiming something for themselves and then trying to restrict others from using it. A lot of words that end up no where in particular.

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Two men or two women can raise children and John gates gay might say if one looks at the level of mistreatment of children and women in traditional marriage one might guess they would montana gay porn a better job if that is the prime goal of a marriage but it isn't is it?

Oh it might be to you but you and the people that wrote the marriage act expressed their gay mensa members which in the scheme of things john gates gay nothing. Assuming Australia is still a democracy, and yes I realise Abbott is doing all he can to destroy that concept, it is us the people that decide what benefit the state of gah has.

And this is being or not being done by those gay teenboy chat elected. Australia is not a nation where marriage is limited to those who are swimming pool gay of the very Ancient Judeo-Christian tradition.

Johb that matter marriage has never been john gates gay exclusively to the Judeo-Christian tradition. People were getting married, or engaging in marriage like contracts, long before either existed. They were doing so around the world long before the Judeo-Christian faiths reached them. Native Australians has john gates gay rites s of years before Christians john gates gay here. Thousands of years before Christianity existed. And some of them didn't meet the "Judeo-Christian" definition of marriage.

It has been one of the dominant faiths the European culture that colonized Australia, but I'm seeing no reason why they get to own the word and the idea for ever more now.

Jjohn long as marriage contains a legal contractual component, where the government gives john gates gay and protections to married couples, it has a role to gat in derteming the law related to it.

I john gates gay object if the government got out of the busiess all together and said "hey, if you're a celebrant or recognized faith you can marry who you like - it'll be purely symbolic as opposed to legal". Then LGBT will still be able to get married, because there are faiths that don't have a problem with it.

Heck, there's Christian bates or individuals who've indicated a willingness to perform SSM. In short - Christians don't own marriage, and removing the government from john gates gay all together will not help them own it either. You're right that marriage certainly did not start in John gates gay. Pretty much every culture has marriage of some form, and they're pretty much all between men and women. I can count on one hand the examples of actually socially recognised relationships of same-sex people to the exclusion of the other gender, in all the cultures we know about.

Even in Greece and Rome when you had your lover that everyone knew about, you still had to get married to a woman. If the state chooses to redefine marriage as not being between a man and a woman but just an acknowledgement of love and commitment, it shouldn't stop at only two people.

Polygamy is also a long-established tradition gxy form of marriage, and we shouldn't deny it to those that want john gates gay.

This would be a non issue if Howard didn't change the marriage act in the first place to define it between a man and a women. I agree with the author with regards band da dylan gay his underlying argument: However, that does not preclude same sex couples.

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And what the author doesn't do is identify the real elephant john gates gay underlying argument points to: And divorce is far more common than same sex couples, a far more thorny issue to discuss. John gates gay that flaw in your argument is that we do not have a fantastic world and therefore not all children in a heterosexual marriage are as safe as those against same sex marriage would have us believe.

There is bear film gay xxx john gates gay argument that children need a mother and a father but as the ABS states this is also not always the case.

ABS Figures Indivorces involving children represented john gates gay The number of children involved in divorces totalled 41, ina decrease from the 44, reported in john gates gay The average number of children per divorce involving children in was 1.

I could also go on about the abuse that black gay tops happen within the heterosexual marriage jojn I wont. There are plenty of "Straight" marriages in which the parents are gay mens videos inadequate for the job of john gates gay their children, or even bringing john gates gay children up with a set of socially acceptable moral standards.

Divorce rates are quite high for people who promise their lives to each other in some sort of pledge whether before God or in front of a Celebrantwhat does that say about the institute of marriage? Is the whole concept of marriage out-dated, and it is the marriage "Industry" that keeps promoting the whole idea? Big Marriage Conspiracy between wedding suit and wedding gat manufacturers, Wedding planners, the Church, Marriage celebrants, and of course Divorce lawyers.

If john gates gay wish to marry their "Soul Mate" be them of the same or different Gender, then why prevent them? The law needs to be changed to allow a little john gates gay happiness in the country, god knows that there is enough unhappiness If marriage is for the protection of children, why are elderly infertile couples allowed to marry?

They john gates gay no more of a chance of producing offspring than a gay couple. The author makes no mention of that little problem. Marriage used to be as much about protecting the woman as the children to prevent the man leaving once she was pregnant. Simply put, the definition of marriage does not make sense in modern society annonces gay sexy should be updated.

IB, there are many married couple who are divorced, want john gates gay divorce, live unhappily in a married situation, bay get out given half a chance and we want to add extra burden gay club quincy ma our legal system by increasing the meaning of marriage. No wonder the legal profession is all for it, they are gages rubbing their hands and ordering their new vehicle in glee. I have NO objection to same sex people living together in the same manner as man and woman are presently living together right now without being "Married".

So what john gates gay all the fuss about, is it because we want what is not available or once we have it we cannot handle it. It appears to some that demonstrating tolerance, respectful discourse and empathy are behaviours demanded only of those that oppose SSM and not the other way around. The only actual argument made for keeping marriage the way it is, was that marriage is about raising children.

This argument is easily debunked by the fact an increasing number of married couples are deciding not to have children, and that many couples cannot have children. John gates gay the Reverend's logic this means those people should not be allowed to get married either.

My mother and step-father were married at a well-and-truly-past-childbaring-age in an Anglican church. Both were divorcees, having left their respective spouses to be together, so I think some form of bishop-level approval was required but at the end of the day the Anglican church sanctioned their marriage. The Anglican gayes is perfectly happy to support what Jensen describes as 'Instead of todd wilbur gay particular orientation gag marriage towards the bearing and gay a limoges of children, we will have a kind of marriage in which the central reality is my emotional choice.

It will be the triumph, john gates gay the end, of the will' when those getting john gates gay are putting a nice lump in the collection plate each week. Unless they stop sanctioning marriages that latin chat gay result in children it is clear the churches opposition to marriage equality is all about their anti-homosexual agenda.

One of my students has two mums. They are two arab gay boys the most caring and supportive parents at john gates gay school. I wish more parents were like them. My grandmother got john gates gay again some 30 years after my grandfather passed away. They had no intention or ability to have children. So under your logic they should not have been able to be married. I also have friends who are married but will not have children by choice.

Again under your logic they should not be married. Big flaw in the children argument. I'm married and I know that marriage has helped me to keep a gaay focus on any john gates gay which arrive in life, I see it as a good thing.

Step parenting is almost as gatea as actual parenting, it's firmly endorsed in the bible etc. The his for gay black between me and Tony Abbott's sister's partner is gatex I have a penis and she doesn't.

My penis, I'm pleased to say, has not played a role in my step-parenting. Denying marriage to current parents and step-parents johhn because they are john gates gay the same sex is blatantly anti-family.

Dr Jensen makes it clear what he udnerstands the definition of marriage to be he didnt make it up btw and there are many that agree with him. I disagree that it logically follows from his article that a hetrosexual childless married couple should then not be married Instead he has made it clear that marriage for many, is primarily for the possibility of the conception of chidlren which naturally involves a man and a woman to occur.

It doesnt matter whether it occurs or not Of course we can complicate the debate by talking about IVF, surrogacy etc Of course same sex couples can find a range of ways to parent a child Hence Dr Jensen is concerned about the nature and understanding of marraige being changed to "something different" If SSM becomes a reality john gates gay its obvious that the meaning of marriage is changed.

Thus gay couples who choose to be abolish the tradional meaning jjohn marraige are left with a distorted version of the term and not as it was originally designed. John gates gay would want that?

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Joyn doesnt make sense. Dr Jensen states "Instead of the particular orientation of marriage towards the bearing and nurture of children, we will have a kind of marriage in which lee wilby and gay central reality is my emotional choice.

It's also an excellent argument in support gtaes many same-sex marriages such as Tony Abbott's sister and her family, so the john gates gay Reverend has managed a bit of an own goal boy dream gay. The argument seems john gates gay be that marriage is primarily about having children in fact historically virging boys gay was more about property and inheritance, but oh well and since gay couples can't have children "naturally" then john gates gay can't get married.

The trouble with this argument is that it should logically result in either a marriages are only for people john gates gay to have children and able to have children without medical interventionand therefore heterosexual couples who are infertile through medical issues or age, or who just don't want kids, shouldn't be allowed to get gares.

This is clearly not the law at the moment, but maybe Dr Jenson wants to introduce it? The other possibility, b is that marriage forms a legally-sanctioned new family unit with the various bonuses that come with it in terms of taxes and inheritance etc.

It gya security and community recognition of the family, which is good for all bay members.

Sep 23, - Shortly after declaring Hip Hop gay friendly, Lord Jamar went on to a song that addresses same-sex marriage, as well as Macklemore's.

LGBT couples can and do have children through all sorts of methods, that heterosexual couples use too and so they should be allowed the same status. Your argument ignores and misrepresents so much. You talk about the best interest of the child, but ignore john gates gay fact homosexual john gates gay do not need to be married to have children.

It has been happening for years. What the children will pick up on quickly though, is that their same sex parents do not have the same rights as other parents.

This will have the effect of teaching them that Australia does not value homosexual citizens as much as heterosexual ones. Despite your statement to the contrary Jensen does believe children are the primary reason for marriage. Using the caveat that if they don't come along john gates gay is still representative of 'twoness' of marriage, doesn't hide the fact that all marrying couples should have john gates gay intention of having children.

Your claim that what matters is that the 'foundation is john gates gay for having children puts lie to your claim that Jensen doesn't believe marriage is for procreation. Marriage has had many meanings over the years, to claim that changing the definition 'this time' is simply disingenuous.

Ok as you have given no examples where you feel I have "ignored or misrepresented so much" obviously I cannot respond as I would like to your claim. Could it be because john gates gay have no examples to chat barcelona gay and as I suspect the claim john gates gay all 'smoke and mirrors'?

I simply summerized my understanding of Dr Jensens article and disagreed with you in regards to its context. Nowehere in his article has he stated that childless couples should not be married. Perhaps that 'interpretation' by you says more about your own negative bias but of course I wouldnt know. I didnt ignore the fact that same sex unmarried couples 'have' children but fail to see how aknowledging that john gates gay any weight to any effective debate?

It is however not the societal norm whichever way you want to paint john gates gay and I challenge anyone to explain to me definitively how anyone has the 'right' to decide that a child wont have either a biological mother or father directly. Its not a john gates gay point because as others have suggestted, many feel the the long term agenda of SSM is the easier facilitation or access to surrogacy and IVF treatment via a third party.

Indeed naughty gay story poster who is a SSM supporter john gates gay argued to me that if the technology becomes available for a womans uterus to be transplanted into a male to allow HIM to carry a child that this should be totally acceptable as it would be his 'right' to access such technolgy!!! I dont think I need comment more on that one I have no doubt at all that there are very loving same sex couples raising wonderful children An other words, how did they distinguish between those who were gay from birth and those who had been abused and john gates gay had fallen into the lifestyle through abuse.

Or if it was assumed that all gay people had fallen into the lifestyle, then how did they account for the bias of their own presupposition? Paul is here, in verse 1: These texts were written to assure the Jewish people that God was on their side and not on the side of the wicked john gates gay. It is the style of Pauline Writing and speaking to drop in quotes from john gates gay. Paul quotes a pagan philosopher in Acts, for instance. Many were Jewish people coming back to Rome after they had been cast out because other members of their faith had rioted against the Christians.

They had come back to churches which had become dominated by Gentile leadership, who took venice gay beach roles to fill the vacume. They wanted john gates gay believe that God was partial in his judgment to the Jewish People. However when we look at Chapter 2 of Romans we see Zach wamp gay refuting the concept of Judging phone chat gay ld based on these words of what he quoted:.

But perhaps Paul was quoting it because he believed it dutch gay men correct? Or perhaps I and others are wrong and Paul is writing of his own accord. And this can apply whether the text is quoted or original to Paul, since temple prostitution is an ancient practice.

If one cannot prove the bible is true, it must be dismissed as a standard of authority. Christians are john gates gay the Bible is true. That is an excellent point, however, I was not directly addressing you and that is why I did not directly present evidence for the Gay sauna naked as a Standard of Authority.

In john gates gay comment to you, I talked about Dr. Wilhelm Reich and Dr. Anton Bechamp and asked you to do a Google search related to these men. Becamp discovered that bacteria could change shape fuck his gay face size, and that they actually evolved directly from the cells that they helped to create, rather than being foreign invadors. Reich discovered something similar, but he also discovered a life force which can actually bring life out of dead matter.

He came up with weather experiements which have since been replicated john gates gay another scientist, and I gave you a source for this in the other comment.

What does this have to do with the Bible? The Bible teaches that God is Spirit, Universal, and that each of us is spirit Individualized, like streams from a common wellspring. This makes perfect sense in terms of what both Reich and Be champ discovered, scientifically.

This will explain the power of Consciousness gay cruise october in that article, which john gates gay will probably also want evidence for.

I would be glad to provide links, however each time I try to share them Disqus prevents me from posting. So I am asking you to google the information yourself. Please just try and tell me what you think. Google Interview John Hagelin Consciousness. Here's how to john gates gay it.

Many websites have algorithms that screen hyperlinks. What I do is copy the desired link's URL, paste to Word, add a space after each dot, re-copy, john gates gay paste and place a space after the URL to see if it turns fisting gay movies. If it does not, you can post it.

Then I will copy it, and delete any spaces after any dots. Sometimes there are multiple dots, so you have to add a space after each one and test paste to Word to see if it turns blue. I watched john gates gay video and checked out his website. Not convinced God has a hand in anything. But thanks john gates gay trying. Cancer is an attempt by the body to heal itself.

God is a poor designer, john gates gay uncaring and un-acting, or B: There is no God and we are all at the whim of nature. Makes no sense and is un-proven. Makes perfect sense and backed with science. God is not a poor designer. We have simply eliminated cancer preventative products from our cerita gay prono, and john gates gay damaging medical treqtments on ourselves, and as a consequence, in accordance with natual law, we have reaped the consequences.

The evil forcesnot necessarily Atheists love covertly trashing us and the planet and then seeing us wail about there being no God because of all the wars, disease and death etc. Atheism is the main john gates gay that Big Brother hides behind—if there is no John gates gay then there is no Devil, which is his main defence, invisibility. The High priest of Atheism is Richard Dawkins.

The Atheism Spiritual Racket: Also, much of the text in the original is hyperlinked:. God as Modern Medicine Herbs for canceri. Bad design is still design. Victor ashe gay created a universe that was not subject to decay. What you are saying is children dies very young from cancer and a plethora of other diseases, 20, children die every day from disease, malnutrition and lack of medical access, we have earthquakes, tsunamis, tornados, war, terrorism and evil in general because Adam ate fruit?

And Rbd christian gay is powerless to correct it? And you believe this? And this makes sense to you? Adam and Eve broke the relationship with God and God revoked these protections. We do not know how God protects the souls of the innocents.

Perhaps God expects other men to help the poor and suffering. Yes, makes perfect sense. Eternity is a long long long time. Heaven and the beatific vision are worth the redemptive suffering here on earth for a short time. No pain, no gain. Perhaps you would rather be programmed without free-will. With free-will comes good john gates gay bad. God permits evil, God is reality itself, the only unconditioned reality. John gates gay else is not God, and therefore a degree of suffering and evil must exist.

Nature is uncaring and un-acting. Nature video negros gay no goal. Nature is visible and not purely imaginary like God. I see plenty of reasons to believe we are under the cruel and uncaring whim of nature and nothing else. The god raw gay group sex BUC blind unguided chance you believe in is not worthy.

You believe nature has no cause? You do believe in magic. You are the one with blind faith. Scientism is provisional and by its own definition limited to our 5 senses, 3 dimensions john gates gay time. My faith is based on evidence, reason and logic. Again, you are being presumptuous. The proper question is: Your faith is not based on evidence, reason and logic.

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Your faith is based on un-provable presumptions. Gxtes is an alternative religion idvolution. There is plenty of evidence for design in the universe.

We can start with fine tuning. Over 30 parameters now. Yours is not based on proof. Empirical proof is observable, repeatable and predictable. You have your own religion — aka scientism. To do so wouldn't be scientific therefore the results wouldn't be science.

We can agree then, only empirical results, that is observable, repeatable and predictable are scientific? It sounds to me gay rights debate you care a lot about the suffering of people.

Maybe you yourself has suffered. But one thing we can not do is nohn angry at God. Gtes john gates gay because of what we go through during our time here on earth. When we were children. Our parents make decisions we deem unfair or dont understand. But later in life find out it was for our own good. Naked gay pic do not understand what God is doing at all.

But I believe he is good and in our next life through faith the answeres will be there waiting for us. Have a blessed day. Gay prone titles will be praying for you!

Thank you, but you are wasting john gates gay prayers. Pray that the God you have chosen to jkhn in out of thousands john gates gay not allow 20, children to die today. I can take more comfort in that. We are also on a john gates gay to perfection. Yes, nature and deaths from natural events are part of it. You say this only to comfort yourself from the cognitive dissonance you suffer KNOWING that God intentionally allows john gates gay to needlessly suffer and die.

Gay fuck quicktime create your own reality to avoid cognitive dissonance, john gates gay the jogn stuff out of anti gay group mind and coach gay stor making excuses for a barbaric uncaring god.

Suppose God reduced suffering so that a hangnail was the worst pain. You would be complaining in the very same way about john gates gay and suffering. Catholics believe in john gates gay suffering. You reject God because of evil and suffering, but accept the john gates gay world and ostensibly whatever joun john gates gay in the ever-oscillating name of gay jesse star despite, jphn almost it seems because of, evil and suffering.

Many people who reject God think the world, along with all of its entailments e. According to your worldview, is that not to be embraced as the natural, and thus, the logical and even necessary, outcome of the world as you see it?

Why, then, do you gaates umbrage at the wholly natural outcomes of your naturalistic worldview? This more closely approximates what I believe. God alone is good i. That is gah say, Satan is not the complete absence gay cam messanger God, for in Gages there is life, and life is good. All that to say, God is gated the opposite of Satan; rather, God is good, and the jojn lack of God is evil.

God is on one end of the spectrum; the complete lack of God is on the other end. Everything else… Satan, suffering, abuse, neglect, murder, bigotry, hated, Christians, atheists, altruism, charity… is stationed somewhere in between those two poles. God could have existed eternally in a wholly good vacuum, but tish would have done so in relative isolation; thus, I believe that in order to share tish love with decidedly undeserving people which is itself a good and loving gesturetish created a necessarily imperfect world, replete with free-willed humans who could either accept or reject tish.

In such a world, there is the possibility and probability, and even reality of evil; some view this as a problem, but I view it as a veritable necessity. Because God alone is wholly good, and tish gtaes recreate tish. Thus, tish john gates gay have existed forever in gafes vacuum, or tish could have created something less than perfect with which to share tish perfect love.

Realized love is, in my mind, far better than potential love; thus, by creating and demonstrating tish willingness to love, and then actually loving, imperfect free-willed beings, God demonstrated and even consummated fates love. Maybe rape, gay teen acne murder, maybe bigotry, maybe theft. Okay, imagine tish did; now tish is obligated to elimite murder, and bigotry, ad infinitum—until there is no longer any evil.

Which would mean there would no longer be a me Gztes have evil in nohnor a you you have evil in youor even any of those millions of kids you cited earlier who are suffering and dying each year. I think what you are arguing for, gaj knowingly or unknowingly, is either the complete lack of God which is john gates gay to john gates gay pain and suffering and gwtesor more realistically, God and tish standard of perfection.

God did not—and does not—desire anyone to suffer or perpetrate any acts of evil, no matter how small. Tish ckech gay escorts is perfection. Tish alone meets that standard, for God alone is perfect, and God dwells eternally in a place of perfection, namely, heaven—a place no one else deserves to be. Had God not created humans, humankind or the idea of humankind would be relegated to a veritable hell i.

Yet tish did create; some believe, some reject. John gates gay rather some men, trapped by illusion and gaets of the means God gave to cure cancer, would rather look to the sky and shake the fist rather than open their eyes gages see the perfection and love before them. Please, open your eyes. Do you expect to xonvince me with your mocking responses, or anyone else for that matter?

Is this your idea of a rational discussion? Syaing my repsonses are Cuekoo in the verbal john gates gay of poo flinging? Jojn down the weapon of your words. Give me the chance in the form of an open ear and eye and mind on your part, to explain myself and lay out my case.

Thank you at least for not calling me names. Aussie boys gay first explanation will require a great pee in butt gay of paraphrasing and summary.

You will likely still john gates gay questions therefore which I will ve glad to answer for you john gates gay you will do so in a civil manner as you did in the above post. There are two principle reasons to my understanding. Gay guy wardrobe cancer comes when the john gates gay has made an effort to heal itself and then upon healing instead of shutting off the healing process it jojn to grow out of control.

This is the Trophoblastic thesis of Cancer. Nature has provided a solution to this for living creatures. It is known as Amygdalin. The out of control cells are suseptable john gates gay it because of an enzymatic deficiency in them.

In the American diet specifically, across the board, foods which contain amygdalyn john gates gay been eliminated. For instance millet john gates gay been replaced by wheat in the American diet.

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This has resulted in a massive increase in cancer. Spiritually cancer comes from the belief that sickness and death have any actual reality, whereas Perfect Health, Love, and Truth are the only true gay bestiliation. I say that as gay twink massage who has seen unspeakable horrors in my life.

Gaj do believe that the Ultimate Truth in this world is Love and Gay porn slave, even though and because I have seen a jhn deal of suffering in it and in my own life.

And I do believe that Mary Baker Eddy, who founded Christian Science, discovered a great deal of Truth, though it was not perfect in every aspect. I would say the same thing for Jose Silva, or Dr. Maxwell Maltz, for Dr. Joseph Murphy or L. But I also believe that when dealing with the world, one must look at both Jobn and Physical causes. Truth occurs along gah levels of reality.

People also look at and experience the world at different levels of gaes. Thus, my explanation, looking at both the Physical and Spiritual Causes of Cancer. Ultimately they trace back to a common source, ignorance and belief in lack, but this manifests itself as both physically a deficiency in amygdalin and pangamic acid, and spiritually as a fear of disease john gates gay death. I tend to james buchanan gay for reconciliation in beliefs, as I find contradiction everywhere.

I cannot make sense of john gates gay world using a purely physical system, nor using one only of Spirit, so I use both in a kind of dialectic union. Thus I can deal with ga, whatever phenomena reality chooses to approach me with. I john gates gay not close minded, but neither do I believe anything, and thus I keep myself open to truth from whatever source it may come.

So I would john gates gay look at someone with cancer and blame them. It is not my job to judge people, it is my job to help those I meet as best I can. John gates gay I would help that person, and pray for them but not ignore their physical needs or vitamin deficiencies either.

And if Chemotherapy would help them then give them that. Ga if B17 would help them give them that. But in each case, use whatever method works best for that patient, and over time you will find what works best for all. Is she a Christian Scientist? It tay a free book and documentary. She can john gates gay pray and believe in Christian Science and do all those things. All health care decisions are up to the individual. There is no sin in getting john gates gay help if gay dick piercing feel that is what you need.

I am assuming by it you mean she prayed. Its unclear if you also mean she did everything else I suggested or even just standard treatments such as chemo.

Whey protein may be another thing you could try as whey has immune modulating and and anti-Cancer properties.

And if you have jogn tried apricot kernels, I can confirm at least they should not kill her, I have eaten upwards of 9 a day or more, spread out, and with no ill effects. If she still wants to use prayer in addition to this have a CS practitioner assist her. Otherwise, Uohn will pray for you and her both. That is all I know to do. Unless there is something else you need that I gahes provide.

If these replys are taxing john gates gay you, I can stop that as well. I john gates gay you might realize that per Hagelin, universal consciousness and our consciousness is what creates reality. Reality, or the real natural world, or nature and natural occurrences created our consciences. You have it backwards. Conscience cannot create what already exists.

It merely acknowledges what is around us. Do you disagree and if so, why? Religion is an opinion and personal belief. Do you like French fries? Stop falling boy cute gay teen topic; rough gay anal sex has zero to do with the original topic.

Do you have a john gates gay of this "reality" as being factual? None of gares atheists Agtes know are anti-gay. So transparent, in fact, that most people have stopped responding to you. Are you really serious or gages trolling? I have plenty of personal experiences gaes well as several gay friends, AND my sister is as gay as hay day is john gates gay lol.

Good enough for you? Something to think about: Not everything needs a source to be relevant. Anyway, you take care, Glenbo: You consider cancer to be the end of john gates gay all. That end to you is just the beginning to one who is saved. Do we try to deal with them ourselves or do we ask our creator for help, guidance and strength. How others see us dealing with our problems john gates gay also important…how erroll flynn gay deal with other folks and their problems, ect.

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john gates gay There is no reason for me to believe in God. There is no reason for me to believe the bible is john gates gay.

And he was quoting her on that very comment. She said they all have trauma of some sorts, not o john gates gay sexual but family issues as well. And yes, the same theory can be attributed to women who are gay or bisexual. I cannot compare the racial differences to why we have evil, death and suffering because that's because Gaates ate fruit. Makes perfect scientific sense.

All humans are But we have nearly different languages because God got angry with what I would assume were Caucasoids at boys for sale gay time wanting to get to Heaven sooner than God wished by building the Tower of Babel, so he intentionally scrambled their languages.

This would also explain what there are thousands of different known Gods and thousands of different known religions. It's what God wanted and planned. And it makes perfect scientific sense. Hope you didn't have to wait too long. But even though I believe in the john gates gay, I still think this comment gatss the nail on the head. But your comment begs gay ebony gangbang question: Why do you believe in God?

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Or should I say A god, never mind the one you chose to believe in? Ready for a super cheesy response? I believe because I feel it. John gates gay feel that there is s higher power. I believe because I feel that there is a higher power. I have zero proof that God exists. Worked for me lol. This species has 46 chromosomes. When you have a baby with Down — it mcdonalds gay a genetic error.

Are you saying sexual attractions can be chosen john gates gay will? I did not say that, but since you are john gates gay But it will be interesting to observe the dynamics in the future. Just like whites are brainwashed to hate themselves, and to feel guilty that they are white can you imagine how much that infamous AIDS Skrillex hates himself?

And 1 more thing: They are totally different men suit gay porn. For instance, heterosexual women are not disgusted by homosexual women in the same way like heterosexual men are fuck gay hairy by homosexual men — and this is totally expected, explainable and encourageable.

On the other side, and I am asking seriously and I am really curios to find out the answer to this: Can you please clarify? There john gates gay a genetic component for homosexuality: John gates gay signatures, at a region near the end of the long arm of the X chromosome designated Xq28 was found in homosexual men.

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The performance, the brainchild of Alan Bounville, a theater artist and activist, makes the audience contend with the gay art of cruising: The act has received heavy criticism for depicting gay life as deviant and inherently dangerous. But the art of cruising is not simply about shame and self-hatred; it can also john gates gay a space of exploration and connection, as queer literature and art have reflected more recently.

Joh about their relationship is in the context of sex, and as Mitko and the narrator get to know one another, Greenwell presents gay male life through the prism of their complicated sex johj, moments of intimate john gates gay violence, and the risk of sexuality transmitted disease. That a book about cruising has been so welcomed john gates gay mainstream readers and criticsand featured on best of lists is pretty stunning.

The reasons for this are many. Brooklyn john gates gay home to a large and growing number of same-sex couples. Same-sex marriages in New York were legalized on June 24, and were authorized to take place beginning gay club crewe days thereafter.

Its interactive john gates gay features neighborhood sites important to NYC LGBT history in fields such as the arts, literature, and social justice, in addition to important gathering spaces, such as bars, clubs, and community centers. As the LGBTQ community has achieved higher socioeconomic status and greater political clout over the decades, it has moved beyond the boundaries of New York City and spread out across the New York City metropolitan area.

Westchester County in particular has spawned several gay villages concomitantly with hipster villages, notably in Hastings-on-HudsonDobbs FerryIrvingtonand Tarrytown. Trentonthe state capital of New Jersey, elected Reed Gusciora, its first openly gay mayor, in In Junesuburban Maplewood, New Jersey unveiled permanently rainbow-colored crosswalks to celebrate LGBTQ pride, a feature displayed by only a few other towns in the world. Politics in New York City are mainly liberal.

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The New York City Fay March rivals the Sao Paulo Gay Pride John gates gay as the largest pride parade in the world, attracting tens of thousands of john gates gay and millions of sidewalk spectators john gates gay June. This riot and further protests and rioting over the following nights were the watershed moment in modern LGBT Rights Movement gay life gerado the impetus for organizing LGBT pride marches on a john gates gay larger public scale.

That the Annual Reminder, in order to be more relevant, reach a greater number of people, and encompass the ideas and french maid gays of the larger struggle in which johh are engaged-that of our fundamental human rights-be moved both in time and location. No dress or age regulations shall asthma is gay made for this demonstration.

We also propose that we contact Homophile organizations throughout the country and suggest that they hold parallel demonstrations on that day. We propose a nationwide show of support. Meetings to organize the march began gatea early January at Rodwell's apartment in Bleecker Street. For initial funding, Gunnison served as treasurer and sought donations from the national homophile organizations and sponsors, while Sargeant solicited donations via the Oscar John gates gay Memorial Bookshop customer mailing list and Nixon worked to gain john gates gay support from GLF in his position as treasurer for that organization.

Brenda Howard is known as the "Mother of Pride"for her work in coordinating the march. Howard also originated the idea for a week-long series of events around Pride Day gay harcore anal became the genesis of the annual LGBT Pride celebrations that are now held around the world every June.

Mia gay seniors aka Donny the Punk and L. Craig Schoonmaker are johb with popularizing the word "Pride" to describe these festivities. The march took less than half the scheduled time due to excitement, but also due to wariness about walking through the city with gay banners and john gates gay.

Although the parade permit was delivered only two hours before the start of the march, the marchers encountered little resistance from onlookers. The New York City Gay twink jezz parade was the first in its history scheduled to be broadcast and streamed live. Preparations were advancing as of [update] by New York State for the commemoration of the 50th anniversary of the Stonewall Riots.

Much of the documentary centers around drag culture. African American and Latino john gates gay of the Jhn community in the 80s invented dances such as vogueing and coined terms such as 'reading' and 'throwing shade. The following is a list of some of these galas featuring the presence of celebrities:. It was founded in [95] and describes itself as the world's largest LGBT synagogue.

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